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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Yoweri Museveni
Yoweri Museveni

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated).
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
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  5. oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)
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January 19[edit]

Arts and culture

International relations

  • Uganda每United States relations
    • An Ugandan government spokesman accuses the U.S. government of "subversion" after the ambassador Natalie E. Brown tried to visit opposition leader Bobi Wine at his home, where is under house arrest. Brown commented she wanted to check the "health and safety" of Wine. (Reuters)

Politics and elections


January 18[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Withdrawn) Ice hockey championship host change[edit]

Withdrawn. Brandmeistertalk 09:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: 2021 Men's Ice Hockey World Championships (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The International Ice Hockey Federation changes the host of the 2021 men's ice hockey world championships. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The International Ice Hockey Federation moves the 2021 men's ice hockey world championships from Belarus to another location.
News source(s): IIHF
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Somewhat a historic decision in a top-tier tournament and another signal for Lukashenko-Putin duo. The final location hasn't been announced yet, Latvia is considered. Brandmeistertalk 20:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Changes /rescheduling of these events are trivial matters for ITN. --Masem (t) 20:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not significant enough for ITN. P-K3 (talk) 01:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Nothing important, just a host change. Gex4pls (talk) 03:47, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality. The target article is mostly tables.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 17[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime


RD: Sammy Nestico[edit]

Article: Sammy Nestico (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KUSI, NAFME
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Unfortunately this one's a long shot - his article needs a refjob badly, there's not much there to update, and I'm fairly sure he's mostly unknown outside of jazz bands/fans. Arranged a ton of stuff for Count Basie and had a ton of compositions for school jazz bands. -- a lad insane (channel two) 08:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Abel Gabuza[edit]

Article: Abel Gabuza (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vatican News
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African archbishop, Covid-19. Article looks reasonable - Dumelow (talk) 09:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment - Invisible article. STSC (talk) 10:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Doh, now fixed Dumelow (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Nikolay Antoshkin[edit]

Article: Nikolay Antoshkin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Russian air force general and politician who was awarded Hero of the Soviet Union for his role in Chernobyl clean-up efforts. Covid. Davey2116 (talk) 06:59, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Phil Spector[edit]

Article: Phil Spector (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TMZ, Rolling Stone, AP, Guardian
Credits:

Article needs updating

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Please note: TMZ is the only current "quality" RS reporting this (Brit tabloids are next, and...) and while TMZ has generally avoided jumping the gun, I'm looking for better confirmation. Article is a ways away from posting if this is confirmed. (needs a better source) Masem (t) 16:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Rolling Stone. gobonobo + c 16:18, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Just saw that, so confirmed. --Masem (t) 16:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
So did the Washington Post. But we should be asking ourselves if a murderer should be posted there. Trillfendi (talk) 16:28, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
RD doesn't care about the ethics of the bio. --Masem (t) 16:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
People get denied for much pettier reasons. Trillfendi (talk) 16:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Citation needed Spman (talk) 17:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment The article quality is not there yet, but I would support a blurb in principle - "among the most influential figures in pop music history" as our article says. P-K3 (talk)
  • Oppose tagged. Would consider a blurb as per P-K3's observation, although it is questionable to give a murderer a blurb. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb, Oppose RD until everything is fully referenced. Mjroots (talk) 17:33, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD only 每 when deemed presentable. A known name to several generations, but his age and history militate against a blurb. 每 Sca (talk) 19:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb for deciding to kill an innocent woman, should have stuck to producing beloved family entertainment, petty but true! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Not a chance.--WaltCip-(talk) 23:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
What are you opposing, exactly? The item has been nominated for RD. Nsk92 (talk) 01:52, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb solely due to significance; if neither Chuck Yeager nor Little Richard got blurbs, neither does Spector. The whole "he's a murderer so doesn't deserve one" smacks of RGW IMO (we could've posted Manson, and I don't remember if we did). 每 John M Wolfson (talk ? contribs) 00:24, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Manson was posted as RD, there was no consensus for a blurb. [1] P-K3 (talk) 00:35, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Looking at that discussion it appears that none (or at most very few) of the blurb opponents were doing so because of any moral/Son-of-Sam compunction, but rather due to notability, which I agree with. 每 John M Wolfson (talk ? contribs) 00:49, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Even accepting him as a famous murderer, he's not in my Top Ten of transformative or proficient ones. The Son of Sam totally is. Spector's one sloppy hit mainly just changed public perception of himself, dragging his otherwise A-level music career down to an asterisked A. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Fair enough. I only have issue with using the murder as the sole reason to oppose a blurb. 每 John M Wolfson (talk ? contribs) 01:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    I was in a rush, but will now also add that fading away after 80 did this story no favours. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:35, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD, leaning oppose blurb. A significant figure in the history of music, but not in the most significant roles in the field. He neither performed nor wrote songs. He took works created by others and produced them well. BD2412 T 00:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per current orange banners, oppose blurb. - Indefensible (talk) 07:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality. And why the heck are people saying they oppose a blurb when this is just an RD nomination? Am I missing some context here? 106.208.66.63 (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    I showed up fifth and just wanted to fit in. I felt cool, at first. But looking back, you're right, should have opposed the RD listing. Too late to change now, though. I'll remember to stay focused for our inevitable O.J. Simpson "trial", thanks! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:45, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Jubril Martins-Kuyer[edit]

Article: Jubril Martins-Kuye (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Premium Times (Nigeria)
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nigerian former minister, basics are there. I'll see if I can tidy it up a bit - Dumelow (talk) 12:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Philip Wilson (bishop)[edit]

Article: Philip Wilson (bishop) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Archbishop of Adelaide. Got into a sexual abuse scandal a couple years back. Article is pretty well-referenced in my opinion, I just added an extra one for a previously uncited statement. Juxlos (talk) 09:09, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose it's in decent condition but more than half of the entire bio is dedicated to (yet another) child abuse scandal. With a main article. I think here it could be summarised down significantly. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree, there's too lengthy content about the child abuse cases but overall the article seems OK. STSC (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

LauncherOne[edit]

Article: LauncherOne (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: LauncherOne becomes the first liquid-fueled aircaft-launched rocket to reach orbit. (Post)
News source(s): WaPo, Space.com, Guardian, BBC, Bloomblerg
Credits:

Article updated

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The first successful launch of a liquid-fueled rocket from an airplane to reach orbit. (Also delivered 10 mini-satellites for NASA). As such, I believe the item qualifies for ITNR: "The first and last launches of any type of rocket." The article seems to be fairly well referenced. There is one 'clarification needed' tag in the lede that still needs to be addressed (or that sentence removed). Nsk92 (talk) 02:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

January 16[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


RD:Chris Cramer[edit]

Article: Chris Cramer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: BBC journalist and executive who was a hostage in the Iranian embassy siege. New article by above user, short but decent - Dumelow (talk) 08:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I've expanded it a little and added some new sources. I think being head of CNN International for 11 years pushes him over the notability boundary - Dumelow (talk) 16:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks ok. P-K3 (talk) 01:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Sergi Mingote[edit]

Article: Sergi Mingote (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish alpinist, dies after an accident in K2. Article looks fine. Alsoriano97 (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Pedro Trebbau[edit]

Article: Pedro Trebbau (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Nacional
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German-born, Venezuelan zoologist. NoonIcarus (talk) 10:38, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment. Thin, not properly sourced. I've just updated the tense, but the death isn't mentioned in the text. The body does not mention the notable book mentioned in the lead. Works could do with thinning; the only one with any significant citations in Google Scholar is The Turtles of Venezuela. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Thanks! I have included a description about his death in the main body. From what I understand, would it be advisable to remove or merge the Works section? --NoonIcarus (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
For academics known for their publications it's usual to include their authored books plus a short (3每5) list of their most highly cited research articles. In this case, everything that Google Scholar found significant citations for was one or more editions of The Turtles of Venezuela, but you might include a small selection of other articles to show he wasn't just interested in turtles. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Juan Carlos Copes[edit]

Article: Juan Carlos Copes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (France24)
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Argentinean Argentine Tango dancer. Work in progress, I've expanded and reffed it a bit. Looking to replace the references to his own website. Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Bheki Ntuli[edit]

Article: Bheki Ntuli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ENCA (South Africa)
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bit short but article looks to be in reasonably good nick (newly created by above user) - Dumelow (talk) 07:47, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sayidiman Suryohadiprojo[edit]

Article: Sayidiman Suryohadiprojo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Work in progress, will finish this in 3〞5 hours. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 04:45, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support pretty fast work. Last sentence of the "Deployments" section is uncited though resolved. Juxlos (talk) 09:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support It looks fine. I concur with Juxlos about the Deployments section but otherwise it should be passable. Ricky250 (talk) 12:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Apologies for exceeding the planned timeframe (it is now about 10 hours); the article is now 90% complete. I would add some more pictures in the remaining 10%. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Now 95%. Adding later life between 1999 and 2021, medal ribbons, and legacy. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Consider it done now. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:37, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT?C 19:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Ugandan election[edit]

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Article: 2021 Ugandan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Yoweri Museveni is re-elected as President of Uganda (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, AP, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Disputed by the opposition, but probably to nobody's surprise, M7 is victorious again.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - Per ITNR. STSC (talk) 21:21, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - as far as I can see it also looks OK quality-wise, mostly thanks to the updaters mentioned above. There's lots of cited text, and I've added a prose summary of the results and reactions so far.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment the Museveni article is quite bad and has multiple tags, the section starting Yoweri Museveni, the man who loves wearing big hats as described on BBC probably the worst. I'll try to improve it. Election article looks good. power~enwiki (, ) 22:30, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Hmm that's a shame. Museveni used to be an FA back in the distant mists of time when I first started editing. It's not strictly necessary for it to be improved for this hook as it's not the bolded link, but would be good if you can get it improved anyway.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment 每 There's not much on the military entering Wine's home property, which reportedly occurred Friday, or on him alleging voter fraud. [2] 每 Sca (talk) 23:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    I'm not sure there is much known about the fraud at present, other than that Wine alleges it. I'll try and add a bit more on that and the break-in you mention tomorrow morning, if nobody else does so first.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per STSC, good article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 10:41, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is in good shape. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:45, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The article is good and the event itself has the significance. Ricky250 (talk) 12:28, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is OK. I would prefer that it also contains something about the parliamentary elections, but I guess that'll have to come later. Juxlos (talk) 13:18, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment 每 Coverage Sunday of Wine's alleged arrest, his National Unity Party saying it will challenge election tally. [3] [4] [5] 每 Sca (talk) 14:43, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. The election article could do with more information about the response to the results; we have held out for two or three solid paragraphs in the past. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - Is this just going to be a thing in every worldwide election from now on, where the opposition party claims fraud? --WaltCip-(talk) 17:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    Nah, that's always been a thing, mostly outside the west Scaramouche33 (talk) 18:43, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    This will be the norm only in bandana republics. 每 Sca (talk) 19:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The article is sufficiently updated in my view. P-K3 (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posting. --Tone 08:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

First winter ascent of K2[edit]

Article: K2 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A group of Nepali climbers completes the first successful winter ascent of K2, making it the last eight-thousander ascended in winter. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: K2 was the most famous and challenging unclimbed peak in winter conditions. The story receives front-page coverage and seems to be of high encyclopedic value. Also, the article is in good shape and the update is sufficient. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support if this is the last of the Eight-thousanders to be ascended in the winter. 每 John M Wolfson (talk ? contribs) 20:07, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, indeed. The article you're linking to mentions it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support on notability but oppose on quality We have posted other world records in various sports and this one is more interesting because it's a "World's first"-type record and ,therefore, it's technically unbeatable. With that said,the K2 article needs some work, there are several red links and cn tags Scaramouche33 (talk) 08:09, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    • @Scaramouche33: Redlinks don't matter so long as there's reasonable expectation that the article will eventually exist, even FA's allow them. I'll see what I can do with the CN tags. 每 John M Wolfson (talk ? contribs) 19:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support This is pretty much the holy grail of eight thousander mountaineering, which was impossible until now. Albertaont (talk) 00:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose target article has more than a dozen [citation needed] tags. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:59, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Need to resolve citation tags.〞Bagumba (talk) 16:33, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Salleh Abas[edit]

Article: Salleh Abas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thesundaily.my/local/ex-lord-president-salleh-abas-dies-updated-BL6148113
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ricky250 (talk) 09:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

What do you mean by "tagged for nearly 12 years"? CyberTroopers (talk) 10:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
There was a "disputed" maintenance tag on top of the page which was dated February 2009. Check the history. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Oops my bad, I have fixed the first paragraph and added a citation for the case. I hope you can change your stance. Sorry for my inexperience, this was my first time nominating an article on EN Wiki. Let me know if there's anything more wrong with the article. Ricky250 (talk) 10:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
No problem, I was just saying why I couldn't support, immediately. I'll take a closer look later. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:42, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Ricky250 (talk) 10:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Very notable person. CyberTroopers (talk) 10:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Notability is not a requirement at RD (and hasn't been for years), as long as the individual has a standalone article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:36, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support. Two claims in the article, at Early life paragraph 3 and Constitutional crisis paragraph 6, are not referenced and there's one When tag at the Honours section, especially given the fact that BLP applies. However the article is in good shape, and meets criteria 1-2 for RDs. GeraldWL 14:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I added two refs in regards to the paragraphs. About honour, i'll see what I can find. Thank you for the support. :) Ricky250 (talk) 16:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT?C 19:24, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Dustin Higgs[edit]

Article: Dustin Higgs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/us/politics/dustin-higgs-executed.html
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 DrewieStewie (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Executed by the US Government on January 16. While this innocent death is absolutely fucking outrageous (excuse my French) and the execution is full of controversies, he has still died none the less, the death itself is notable on a political level (but not for a blurb), and the article quality looks good for RD. DrewieStewie (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support. Significant, fine work. GeraldWL 08:43, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support with regret another proud moment for Trump and his legacy. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Comment 每 As noted regarding the Lisa Montgomery nomination, this nom. seems to depend for noteworthiness not on the event itself but on the political situation in the U.S. Apart from that, the execution of Higgs lacks general significance 每 except perhaps for the topic of capital punishment. 每 Sca (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    You can't oppose an RD on significance, which of course you know. The precedent you cite did not have a stand alone article, this one does. It has citation to varied sources, no real chance for AfD. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Oh yeah. Okay, relabeled as a comment, then. (Though IMO the same principle applies, i.e. "we are not a DT ticker.") 每 Sca (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    If it's any relief, he was charged, tried, convicted and sentenced back in BC, and had his appeals denied on another two watches. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    Arguable, Higgs and Montegomery have the same situaiton around notabilty and BLPCRIME - Higgs shouldn't have an article, as he isn't notable for anything but the crime, though yes, there was controversy around his death sentence, but so was in the case of Montgomery. Just because there wasn't a standalone for Montgomery should not have stopped the RD for that because having a standalne is not a required, only a sufficient condition. --Masem (t) 17:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    If it's not a suitable biography (no opinion on my part), it's best for the RD process if this page was either formally AfDed or renamed〞either boldly or via RM.〞Bagumba (talk) 10:57, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'd strongly prefer some sort of blurb about this last-minute run of federal executions, that might also encompass Lisa Montgomery. I'm not sure why Higgs has an article while Montgomery does not. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
    Because this case had too many victims for a "Murder of..." pseudobio, and not enough for an event article. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Benjamin de Rothschild[edit]

Article: Benjamin de Rothschild (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Financial Times; Haaretz; Bloomberg
Credits:

Article updated

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 Bloom6132 (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - I bought shares through his investment company. He should be remembered. STSC (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Apologies, need a second opinion here: is this a valid RD support? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm sorry you don't laugh. STSC (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article long enough and well-referenced; lead summarizes the points of the article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT?C 19:23, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Osian Ellis[edit]

Article: Osian Ellis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Legendary Welsh harpist and composer. Better referenced than it was. - The news came on 15 January, but died on 6 January. Can we treat him like 15? Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sjarifuddin Baharsjah[edit]

Article: Sjarifuddin Baharsjah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

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 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • @Spencer: Fixed. The chairman is most likely a formality only, no info can be found about the works. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - short but seems to meet requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 07:43, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. Meets minimum standards. SpencerT?C 19:22, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Resignation of Dutch Cabinet over child welfare fraud scandal[edit]

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Article: Netherlands child welfare fraud scandal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte (pictured) and his Cabinet resign as a result of the child welfare fraud scandal, with new elections planned for March 2021. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, NYTimes
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The article is woefully short and I don't know enough about it to help expand, but if I am reading this correctly, while Rutte will remain as acting PM until March to make sure there is leadership, he could be out come these elections in March if his party doesn't get the majority. So effectively the start of a new election cycle. Masem (t) 22:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support significance, oppose stub please please flesh this out. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    Support massively expanded from nl.wiki, good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment For someone who nominated this article (Masem), the resignation of Mark Rutte as Dutch PM is actually a WP:ITNR which it means "a change of head of government" which includes a resignation. So i would "Support" this to be posted if this article needs to be updated and improved due to significance. 36.65.38.213 (talk) 00:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Having dug a bit deeper, there are regular elections coming up in March regardless of this. And while Rutte has resigned, he is remaining on until that point; he could be re-estated if his party wins and he's named back to that position, in a case that they're using the election sort of a vote of no confidence. So I'm not sure if this is ITNR but it definitely feels like an ITN regardless on its own merits. --Masem (t) 01:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
      • @Masem, STSC, and Mjroots: Just to note, the resignation is largely symbolic. They are barely "taking responsibility" as elections were coming up anyways. Also, the VVD was okay with remaining in power, but the other parties in the cabinet (CDA, D66 and the CU) wanted the cabinet to resign. They will continue dealing with COVID as if nothing happened as a demissionary cabinet. Now I may be a bit of a cynic, but this may very well result in more votes for these parties in the upcoming election, as people think "wow, they are taking responsibility!" and then vote for them. Whether it's ITN worthy, I dunno. I guess. But I think the shit in Hong Kong is actually much more important than this despite the Dutch news being much closer to me personally. 〞 Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Any resignation of a prime minister is certainly significant news. STSC (talk) 02:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Something that isn't obscure, yet not that notable. I still support the creation of this article regardless. DavidCostell44 (talk) 04:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - A government taking collective responsibility when something has gone wrong is an extremely rare thing nowadays. Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. 331dot (talk) 11:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Sulawesi earthquake[edit]

Article: 2021 Sulawesi earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: An earthquake on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi kills at least 35 people and injures hundreds of others. (Post)
News source(s): BBC NYT, AP, Reuters
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Developing. Several dead Sherenk1 (talk) 06:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

  • The article is already in a good shape. 27 dead at the moment. --Tone 07:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
@Tone: Information can be changed. Until now, there are 35 people killed. 110.137.127.103 (talk) 10:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. Significant, recent. Article's in fine shape. GeraldWL 12:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - the article is easily good enough & the earthquake important enough. Jim Michael (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support 35 deaths is a lot, and that is likely to rise. Gex4pls (talk) 13:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support 每 in principle, pending results of search for survivors. 每 Sca (talk) 13:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted with updated numbers from the article. --Jayron32 14:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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January 2021 arrests of Hong Kong pro-democracy activists[edit]

Article: January 2021 arrests of Hong Kong pro-democracy activists (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Police raid and arrest pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/14/hong-kong-11-more-national-security-arrests-over-attempted-boat-escape-to-taiwan

Nominator's comments: Very much overshadowed by the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol (and suggested to be timed to be overshadowed by said storming, I had missed it too), the least we could do is put it in the ITN section. The headline "In Hong Kong it now looks like opposition is against the law" says it all really and sadly isn't clickbait. 〞 Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Suggested blurb for entry. - Indefensible (talk) 07:12, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • The problem is, this happend on Jan 6, and there were reports then (the larger media sources slower to pick up on it), so this may be stale. --Masem (t) 15:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
@Masem: There were 11 additional arrests on Jan 14. IMHO the resignation of the Dutch cabinet (still the second bullet point on ITN) is more stale than this. It came as a bit of a surprise as it wasn't really announced before it happened, but now we are already moving on as it isn't that big of a deal in practice. The effects of the Hong Kong arrests of pro-democracy activists will probably be felt for years if not decades. 〞 Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:58, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • A Sudanese Air Force helicopter crashes shortly after taking off in Sudan's Al Qadarif state, near the border with Ethiopia, with the three-person crew surviving the crash, according to officials. (TRT World)

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RD: Sylvain Sylvain[edit]

Article: Sylvain Sylvain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC; NBC news; The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

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 --Melly42 (talk) 00:30, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bryan Monroe[edit]

Article: Bryan Monroe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Philadelphia Inquirer; CNN; The Mercury News
Credits:

Article updated

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 Bloom6132 (talk) 16:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Kathleen Heddle[edit]

Article: Kathleen Heddle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Associated Press; The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Only reported on January 13 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Not a very long article, but decent. Well sourced and no grammar issues that I could see. Gex4pls (talk) 03:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support well referenced and updated. MurielMary (talk) 07:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Siegfried Fischbacher[edit]

Article: Siegfried & Roy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Article is in decent shape given that we had used this for Roy's death last year. Masem (t) 14:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gerry Cottle[edit]

Article: Gerry Cottle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, Sky News, Evening Standard, The Daily Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: British circus owner and promoter. Article is short but well-sourced. Covid-19 death (a week before he was due to be vaccinated).Note: His death was reported on 13 January, but the BBC report says that he "died in hospital in Bath earlier in the week" so a revised date may be required. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Dismayed that neither Reflinks nor ReFill currently working for me. Might have to actually juggle the refs in manually. lol Martinevans123 (talk) 15:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Neither have worked since yesterday!, brought up un talk page of refill JW 1961 Talk 18:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, per TRM - there is a Telegraph article [6] that may be able cite the remaining cn but unfortunately I can't access it from Ireland JW 1961 Talk 20:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are 2 {{citation needed}}. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted citations have been resolved, looks good - Dumelow (talk) 15:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Seyoum Mesfin[edit]

Article: Seyoum Mesfin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Former Ethiopian foreign minister. Killed during the Tigray conflict. Article looks alright - Dumelow (talk) 10:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, I've expanded on his early life. Sca, it's covered by the ref to Reuters at the end of the paragraph which states "Ethiopia said on Wednesday its military had killed three members of the Tigray region*s former ruling party, including former Ethiopian Foreign Minister Seyoum Mesfin" - Dumelow (talk) 15:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ndubuisi Kanu[edit]

Article: Ndubuisi Kanu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vanguard (Nigeria)
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Nigerian admiral. Article looks OK - Dumelow (talk) 10:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support A bit short but well referenced. Gex4pls (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. Not checked fully but the article is disorganised and has a lot of short paragraphs. The lead lacks a capsule definition and contains information not present in the body. There is very limited description of his career, and even less on his personal life. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:28, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Espresso Addict, I found a useful BBC obituary (albeit in Nigerian Pidgin) and have been able to expand and revamp the article. Hopefully you will find it much improved - Dumelow (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Indeed, much better, thanks, Dumelow! Bit concerned at how much is sourced to Ref 3 which is dead (also Ref 9, but that's only one sentence). Many of the live non-BBC sources are pay-walled but they look legitimate. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Margaret Weston[edit]

Article: Margaret Weston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bradford Telegraph and Argus
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: British museum director, death reported on this date. I've tidied up a ref or two but otherwise article looks in reasonable condition - Dumelow (talk) 10:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. Was coming to post this, but on a references spotcheck... Where is the date of birth and middle name sourced (not in Ref 1, can't make Ref 2 download)? Ref 3 does not currently mention any of the material it is supporting, except the fact of patronage; some of this is in Ref 4, but not the school or the patronage of Heritage Railway Association. Ref 4 needs details adding but luckily does support a few of the unsourced statements. Ref 5 is probably usable for date of birth, although it's a blog. Newnham has some details but isn't cited for them. Are there any national newspaper obituaries? (Not questioning the subject's notability, by the way, which I think is obvious.) Espresso Addict (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Have done some tidying up and referencing. Espresso Addict can you review again? MurielMary (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
I've had another look and I think most of it is now sourced, though I haven't checked exhaustively. It seems thin for the bio of someone of such considerable contributions; I don't know how much more will be available until the round of obituaries, though. Espresso Addict (talk) 12:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes a bit thin but satisfactory IMO. MurielMary (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Grace Robertson[edit]

Article: Grace Robertson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: British photographer, death date not known but reported in the press on 13 January. Excellent recent expansion by the above editors - Dumelow (talk) 10:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support satis+. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Well written, well sourced, etc. Gex4pls (talk) 15:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. Thanks for nominating Dumelow, I was holding off until a date was published. An IP has added 11th but afaik it's not been published anywhere yet. I haven't been able to check the Telegraph interview on which the original stub was based, but everything is now sourced elsewhere. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Source cited for her death says "has died aged 90" without an exact date. The WP article says she died "January 2021". Sometime notices are released weeks or months later, so can we be sure it's even January?〞Bagumba (talk) 08:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Google is now saying 11 Jan too (which it wasn't when I last tried her), but where it comes from Googling is not showing me. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Looks like google is just using the date the IP put in. Im seeing a lot of non verifiable sources saying Jan 9, Jan 11, and Jan 13, but i cant really narrow it down. Gex4pls (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT?C 22:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Tim Bogert[edit]

Article: Tim Bogert (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ultimate Classic Rock, NextMosh
Credits:

Article needs updating

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Nominator's comments: Article isn't excellent. Bassist for Vanilla Fudge and Cactus. Only two sources have said anything, so if this turns out to be a Petty/Roberts situation, feel free to jump in and close. -- a lad insane (channel two) 02:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Marielle de Sarnez[edit]

Article: Marielle de Sarnez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Point (Le Point)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs work. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose One section is tagged and there's a missing source. Gex4pls (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Tags added where appropriate. Contra the 2017 tag, the list section would be okay if it were referenced. More importantly is the 1-sentence Personal life section, where the actual BLP details should be. The entire Early life section is sourced from a single Le Monde obit. While not itself a problem, it gives the impression that the subject is not widely notable.130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose tagged. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are 3 {{citation needed}}. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Update. Thanks all. I believe all points have now been addressed: all unverified material either sourced or removed. List rewritten as prose (where verifiable). ※Early life§ section now has five sources. There was an ※expand§ tag on ※Personal life§ section〞it has been, but there is also a sourced note explaining she divulged very few personal details to media, hence limited amount available. Cheers, Innisfree987 (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The article has improved so much and issues have been solved, thanks to Innisfree987. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Needs copyediting to remove WP:EDITORIALizing language from the sources. But at least there's more material to work with now. Joofjoof (talk) 08:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Joofjoof, I have tried to remove language that could be construed as opinionated. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 22:38, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    Support Thanks AleatoryPonderings, that is much better. Kudos to Innisfree987 and the other updaters for building up what was a r谷sum谷 into a good article. Joofjoof (talk) 07:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • plus PostedBagumba (talk) 16:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) President Trump impeached by the House of Representatives[edit]

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Article: Second impeachment of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​United States president Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives, becoming the first American president to be impeached twice. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​United States president Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives, becoming the first president to be impeached on two separate occasions.
Alternative blurb II: ​United States president Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives, charging him with incitement of insurrection and making Trump the first American president to be impeached on two separate occasions.
Alternative blurb III: ​United States president Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives for a second time.
Alternative blurb IV: ​United States president Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives, charging him with incitement of insurrection.
News source(s): CNN, Washington Post, New York Times
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Roll call is happening as I type this. I personally recommend we wait on this until it's official, of course.  Vanilla  Wizard ? 20:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  • I have conflicting thoughts on this, so won't support or oppose, but to save other people the time, this was posted at ITN the first time he was impeached. diff of posting. previous discussion. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Not pushing this idea - as above, not sure what I think - just suggesting it for others to ponder: and ongoing item? It's likely to keep evolving thru next week at the very least. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Could also be an additional sentence in the existing blurb on the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, to avoid totally monopolizing ITN with US news. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt 3 upon passage of the article of impeachment. This is unquestionably ITN material. Article is well sourced and under constant construction. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Are we going to see "Americans impeach all the time" (WP:ITNMINIMUMIMPEACHMENTS) arguments? Howard the Duck (talk) 21:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support This is only the fourth impeachment of a U.S. president. Needless to say, none has previously been impeached twice. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Now official. Davey2116 (talk) 21:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
I prefer including the charge ("incitement of insurrection") in the blurb. Davey2116 (talk) 21:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
probably alt II. Gives a lot of context. DemonDays64 (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb 1. The vote just ended.[7]--Found5dollar (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, the House vote has now officially concluded, 232-197. I think the original blubr is fine, but I don't have a strong preference there. Nsk92 (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support -- half of all of the times the US has impeached a President, it was to impeach Trump. Fun fact. -- Rockstone[Send me a message!] 21:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Vacant0 (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment My preference is altblurb 2, though I'd be fine with any other blurb that either provides context as to why he was impeached or mentions that this is the first time that a US president was impeached on more than one occasion;.  Vanilla  Wizard ? 21:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I would also recommend consideration of adding Second impeachment of Donald Trump to ongoing events until the Senate votes on it -Nywillb (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted - Edits to WP:ERRORS -- Fuzheado | Talk 22:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Question: As I've said before, I'm not a Trump supporter. But aren't world leaders generally addressed by their titles? Shouldn't it say "U.S. President Donald Trump"? UncomfortablySmug (talk) 01:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
    • @UncomfortablySmug: Per MOS:JOBTITLES: "Use titles where they are necessary for clarity or identification in the context, except in the lead sentence of a biographical subject's own article." (For an example, go look at the article on Elizabeth II: The term "Queen Elizabeth" does not appear once in the body of the article.) In this case, the rest of the sentence makes clear that Donald Trump is the president of the U.S., so there's no need to redundantly say "President" or "U.S. president" before his name. Tamzin (they/them) | o toki tawa mi. 07:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
      In some German media he's been known for weeks as the Noch-Pr?sident 每 the "Still-President." 每 Sca (talk) 13:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. The picture of a grinning Trump is ill suited for this blurb. I think this image would be better:
    Donald Trump January 2017.jpg
    Nsk92 (talk) 15:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Nsk92: There is an ongoing discussion on the image at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors.〞Bagumba (talk) 15:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
    The photo on there now is amazing. Never ever change it! --Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment/Question. Has there ever been a faster ITN nom > post in Wikipedia history (1 hour and 6 min)? CoatCheck (talk) 05:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jo?l Robert[edit]

Article: Jo?l Robert (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTBF, Le Soir
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Recent Covid death, 6 times world champion motocross, 1964 Belgian National Sports Merit AwardFram (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support. Article seems well sourced. 〞Brigade Piron (talk) 17:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Outside of 2 sentences about his death, zero biographical details.130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
    • That's because extremely little has been written about his personal life. In Belgium, if famous people want to keep their private life private, this is mostly respected by the media: as a consequence, we have information about what made him notable, but not about his life, education, family, ... The Flemish main sports newsite, Sporza, has 4 articles about his death (plus one from right before reporting about his critical condition), and they provide no information about his private life except his date of birth[8][9]. Fram (talk) 10:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support good enough for RD, ready to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT?C 15:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Philip Tartaglia[edit]

Article: Philip Tartaglia (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News; The Scotsman
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 16:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Lisa Montgomery[edit]

Article: Murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett#Perpetrator (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Convicted murderer in this crime so does not have a standalone page per WP:CRIME; was executed last night after last -minute attempts to hold her execution. Masem (t) 14:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Masem, how about linking it to Murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett#Perpetrator? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    • I have done so, though her "bio" is spread through the article itself (based on the events related to the murder investigation). --Masem (t) 15:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Would this be pipe linked in mainpage? Or would it remain as it is? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article in good quality and structure. A decent amount of references. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment WP:ITNRD says "if it has a biographical Wikipedia article", apparently meaning a standalone article. So WP:CRIME is in contradiction when it comes to RD. Brandmeistertalk 15:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I agree, there isn't a stand-alone article about her, and WP:ITNRD doesn't have a specific note on allowing this (only for people who are members of groups). Therefore, not convinced this should be on RD, especially as we'd linked to a page about a crime in 2004. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. I think the point of the ITNRD guideline is to avoid RD listings about minor persons who are only mentioned in passing. Montgomery is notable by all standard definitions on Wikipedia and the only reason she has no stand-alone article is a style-related decision not to have such articles in most cases. But the article Masem linked to contains enough text and sources to support a stand-alone article in other cases and thus I think ITNRD has to be interpreted to encompass such articles as well. For example, neither Wachoswki sister has a standalone article but no one would really argue that ITNRD were to deny her an entry in RD if one of them died today. Regards SoWhy 15:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    Wachoswkis: That exception is covered in WP:ITNRD: Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis.Bagumba (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose 每 This nom. seems to depend for noteworthiness not on the event itself but on the tense political situation in the U.S. Apart from that, the execution of Montgomery lacks general significance 每 except perhaps for the topic of capital punishment. 每 Sca (talk) 15:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    It's very rare for female defendants to be executed in the US, so it is significant in that sense.-- P-K3 (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    Due partly to the fact that women are less likely than men to commit violent crimes. 每 Sca (talk) 16:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    A blurb would be the route if its the rarity of the event that is notable. 〞Bagumba (talk) 17:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose WP:ITNRD: An individual human ... if it has a biographical Wikipedia article ... I could possibly IAR for victims, but not the perpetrator. No need to encourage copycats.〞Bagumba (talk) 15:50, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    • ITNRD is a sufficient but not necessary condition for an RD. I fully recognize the standalone is not there. --Masem (t) 16:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support We've posted deaths of murderers without a standalone article before, eg. Ian Brady.-- P-K3 (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is ready for posting. Sourced and historically significant.BabbaQ (talk) 16:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Even not considering the fact that the person doesn't have an article, all of the info is spread out across the article, not concentrated in the section linked. Gex4pls (talk) 16:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The inherent notability of this death is that an execution was carried out, and that in itself is not newsworthy.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    Since when is the cause of death relevant for RD? Regards SoWhy 11:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm not sure that this qualifies for RD; I'm opposed to linking to a murder from 2004, but perhaps a separate article could now be created given the coverage of her execution. A blurb relating to the execution might be warranted, although I'm not 100% sure why it is so much more notable than the other (?)two recent executions. Espresso Addict (talk) 18:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support This is a special case. Yes they do not have a standalone article, but her death is more in the news than the other RDs. Fourth woman executed by US federal government, last time was 67 years ago. First woman executed in the Post-Gregg era. TarkusABtalk/contrib 19:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Note There is precedent for posting an RD for a murderer where only their crime has an article (Moors_murders#Ian_Brady, discussion), though obviously Brady was far more notorious than this case. Black Kite (talk) 21:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Brady was, I believe, far more of a household name? Also his crimes were much further back in time, historical to most readers, and the article about them much more developed. I strongly think that we should hold to the must (almost always) have a separate article principle to avoid being flooded with similar RD requests. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - What the hell, just ignore all rules. STSC (talk) 21:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose RD. No standalone article. Brady article nom did not have clear consensus IMO. If the significance/newsworthiness is the execution, then this should be considered as a blurb rather than shoehorned as an RD. SpencerT?C 01:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • The Brady nom was for a blurb - many of the opposes were against that, before the idea of an RD came up. Black Kite (talk) 01:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I will stress that barring WP:BLPCRIME, Mongomery would have been notable for a standalone article, given that in the last few years as her date of planned execution drew near, more attention had been drawn to her case. But properly under BLPCRIME we don't have a separate article for her as she is not notable for anything beyond the crime, conviction and subsequent legal events tied to it. The complaints that there's no standalone are not really valid as the ITNRD only makes it it a matter of asking about quality for standalone articles, and says nothing against cases like this, which we have posted of the likes before. --Masem (t) 02:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
    People are interpreting WP:ITNRD's has a biographical Wikipedia article as needing to be a "standalone". People could choose to IAR in this case, but that's different than claiming that opposing arguments are "not really valid".〞Bagumba (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose IAR use of BLPCRIME to circumvent basic BLP requirements. The personal details are scant, relate overwhelmingly to a single event, and omit many rudimentary biographical points. This would be a clear BLP1E, were it not housed within an event article.130.233.213.199 (talk) 07:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Technically a BLP2E, notable for the murder itself and being the first woman to be federally executed in the USA in almost 70 years (and the first woman executed in the USA in over 5 years). 1779Days (talk) 10:06, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose we should be stricter about these kinds of things, the individual was not notable without the crime article, so does not meet RD requirements. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Ditto. 每 Sca (talk) 13:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
As I have pointed out above, the RD RFCs were established to set the standalone as a "sufficient but not necessary" requirement for adding to RD, we've never had a consensus discussion on the lack of a standalone - though obviously not having any type of sustained section in any article would be not enough for an RD (like the spouse of a notable person). --Masem (t) 14:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
That may be your interpretation, but sneaking in these RDs with articles that might just mention individuals in passing is a bad idea, the bad precedent may have been set but we don't need to make a bad thing worse. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm with TRM here; the last thing we need is a precedent for people without articles to be considered. (Obvious exceptions people like Ant & Dec or the Coens who predominantly work together.) I'm open to a blurb on this; but the bolded article would have to be something relating to executing women or the federal executions that Trump has forwarded. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
There's Capital punishment in the United States. Cursory look didn't show anything Trump or women specific.〞Bagumba (talk) 05:38, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
That seems like a good solution, if someone is willing to work on it. (Too grim for me just now, I*m afraid.) Innisfree987 (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment 每 This isn't going anywhere and it's getting stale. Suggest close. 每 Sca (talk) 13:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

January 12[edit]

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: William Thornton[edit]

Article: William E. Thornton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10][11]
Credits:

Article needs updating

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is in awful shape. Fully referenced, although most of it is copied from his NASA bio. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shingoose[edit]

Article: Shingoose (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Winnipeg Free Press
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:06, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support almost satis, I'd like to see the lead expanded, but what's there is ok. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support A bit short but well sourced. Gex4pls (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. A quality C-class biography. Nice work Bloom6132. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Would like to see a little more detail about the subject's musical career in the 70s. Not opposed to posting, but could use some more depth of coverage. SpencerT?C 01:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation[edit]

Article: Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​An investigation into Mother and Baby homes in Ireland details the deaths of 9,000 children between 1922 and 1988 (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​An investigation into mother and baby homes in Ireland details the deaths of 9,000 children between 1922 and 1988
Alternative blurb II: ​In Ireland, an investigation into church-run homes for unwed mothers and their babies details the deaths of 9,000 children between 1922 and 1988.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Culmination of investigation going back several years, leading to apologies from Irish state and Catholic church. yorkshiresky (talk) 22:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support (but note I created the article). Culmination of a years-long investigation will see a state apology from Ireland's Taoiseach in a story that will dominate the news in Ireland for a week. Already garnering international attention. Bastun??芍?汕芍????! 23:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Shocking news in a Catholic country. STSC (talk) 01:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Reminds me of the Australian war crimes investigation from a few months ago. Making news even across the pond,[1], [2],[3],[4]. Gex4pls (talk) 04:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Blurb modified to include bold link and (to my eye) a missing article. The Criticisms section is not what I expected, and there is no text comparing this situation to analogous if not contemporary situations (France, Russia, Low Countries during occupation, etc.).130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support bloody hell. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:48, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment awful mistreatment and in principle a blurb seems warranted. However, the outcome was widely anticipated and it's not clear what's in this final report that wasn't already in the interim publications. The article update so far is minimal and provides no more information than we had before the report was published. I'd like to see new information incorporated into the article before posting. Modest Genius talk 10:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Fair comment in part - the scale of deaths and the extent of the disparity in infant mortality rates between the general populace and those in homes was not generally known. The reactions section will be expanded as the Taoiseach makes his state apology and survivors' groups issue their own statements; but this may take some time - the report is over 3,000 pages and frankly, it's hard going. Bastun??芍?汕芍????! 12:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Sure, I expect there will be plenty of reactions. I just would have preferred ITN to wait a day for that material to be added to the article before posting. It's not as if stories are rotating off quickly at present. Modest Genius talk 13:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Even from an Indonesian-centric point of view this has very wide coverage.Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support notable, awful event covered in news in many countries. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't believe "mother and baby homes" is a proper noun. See usage in this Wasington Post article. Also, the 18 affected institutions listed at Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation#Institutions included show this it's not limited to some chain named "Mother and Baby Homes". It's only capitalized as part of the proper name of the commission. I've add altblurb in lowercase.〞Bagumba (talk) 11:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Perhaps it's regional, but I'm not familiar the term "mother and baby home". I've offered alt blurb2 which is more accessible, describing them as "church-run homes for unwed mothers and their babies".〞Bagumba (talk) 11:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. I went with Bagumba's blurb as I too was unfamiliar with the term. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
    331dot, I've noted a concern over the blurb at WP:ERRORS. -- Fuzheado | Talk 15:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Stacy Title[edit]

Article: Stacy Title (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Director of The Bye Bye ManUncomfortablySmug (talk) 21:52, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment. Going to need some work; currently a stub with only a few sentences on her work. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose unreferenced filmography. And per Espresso Addict, just above stub. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment The filmography is now sourced though the article is still somewhat small. May be satisfactory, I'm not sure. Spengouli (talk) 04:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is now fully sourced and a complete BLP. At 1,6 kb it is no longer a stub (but just barely).130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment 每 At 300 words it does seem rather stubbyish, though. Oh well. 每 Sca (talk) 14:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Indian farm laws suspended[edit]

Articles: 2020 Indian agriculture acts (talk · history · tag) and 2020每2021 Indian farmers' protest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Supreme Court of India suspends enforcement of the 2020 agriculture acts which had led to a months-long farmers' protest. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: If this is posted, the ongoing about the protests should be pulled out from ongoing. There probably should be a bit more updating on the targets about this. Masem (t) 16:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Question Does the suspension of the laws mean that the laws are repealed, or does it mean that the implementation has simply been postponed? Gex4pls (talk) 16:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    • They are definitely not repealed/vacated/nullified. All articles I see reported them as suspected or temporarily put on hold while a panel is brought in to oversee negotiations between the gov't and farmers to try to work out compromises on the laws. --Masem (t) 16:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
      • In that case, Oppose. If the laws were repealed, then maybe a support, but the laws simply being put on hold doesn't stop the protests. There is also barely any update in the two articles linked. Gex4pls (talk) 16:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. This is huge. People died protesting these laws. Drmies (talk) 21:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose - For now, while the ongoing status should continue. STSC (talk) 01:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per above, should keep in ongoing, and this is in the article. If the protests stop or lose coverage, we can have another nom to remove from ongoing at that point. Albertaont (talk) 05:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose the ongoing should have this covered. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The first article doesn't seem to have been updated. And main thing that's happened is that a committee has been formed. That's just kicking the can down the road and so this will be ongoing interminably. Andrew?(talk) 15:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose this is part of an ongoing event, and the event is already sufficiently covered in the ITN ongoing section. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sheldon Adelson[edit]

Article: Sheldon Adelson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MarketWatch
Credits:
Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 feminist (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Awesome. Er, the article quality I mean. Mostly. Cites seem to be all there, just a tag about the number of section headers which should be easily fixed. Davey2116 (talk) 13:34, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Great looking article. Also, I initially thought that the nominator comment was "feminist" which I thought was pretty funny... --Rockin (Talk) 13:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support A death to throw the GOP into shambles. Nice article. Kingsif (talk) 14:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose grimly structured article, currently tagged. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
It's not as long as the section headers would suggest, but long enough it's clear where the issue has come from. It's still structured better than lots of one-section two-paragraph short articles we post to RD. Kingsif (talk) 15:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
The tag seems to be more of a style issue than content (e.g. NPOV, sourcing, etc), so I've changed the template as such. It's now a yellow tag, instead of orange, which is not a show-stopper per WP:ITN.〞Bagumba (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Some referencing issues as well, but should be fixable. SpencerT?C 17:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support All paragraphs cited, no close paraphrasing seen. Ready for the main page. Yoninah (talk) 17:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose per WP:PROMO. Lots of buzzy business language about his casinos. I've tried to moderate it a bit, but this needs some more detailed scrutiny before being posted IMO. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted - Changes should be requested at WP:ERRORS -- Fuzheado | Talk 20:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

References[edit]

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents:

  1. ^ "Ireland's 'brutally misogynistic culture' saw the death of 9,000 children in mother and baby homes, report finds". CNN. Retrieved 12 January 2021.
  2. ^ "Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes". BBC. Retrieved 12 January 2021.
  3. ^ "9,000 children died in Irish mother-and-baby homes, report finds". NBC. Retrieved 12 January 2021.
  4. ^ "Irish PM says 'perverse' morality drove unwed mothers' homes". ABC. Retrieved 12 January 2021.